・30日の公式練習ではスピン中のテンくんに突っ込む
260 : 名無し草2016/03/31(木) 01:16:09.93
ジャッキー
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Tense SP runthru for Yuzuru Hanyu, barked at Ten for blocking his path to 3A, fell & punched the boards
詳しくは説明できないけど、どけ的に大声上げたり
大声で文句言うってyell at 使うような気がする
bark at はそれこそ意味なさない雄叫びみたいな
801 : 名無し草2016/03/31(木) 02:07:43.50
During Hanyu's SP runthru, he yelled out because Ten was unintentionally doing a spin on Hanyu's setup to the triple axel. Hanyu went around him but fell on the triple axel, probably lost his concentration. No one crashed into anyone.
ジャッキーのツイ
While I was asked today to forget about this situation and its irrationality, even more irrational the happenings online seemed to be.
Nonsense provokes nonsense. But many try to make sense out of it.
According to commentators, it turns out that I already have a whole team of people who deliberately try mess with people's minds,
planning ways to "intentionally interfere" trainings and overall is the embodiment of an insidious Masonic lodge.
This invisible power responded to provocations in the very most severe way… Instagram post.
People started to perceive virtual reality way too deeply and began distorting reality itself for their own virtual goals and public agenda.
No-one really thought that such things normally are discussed personally, not publicly. But why think when it's already that clear and everyone knows everything?
Truth here, truth there. People see what they want to see. Enchanting accusations crafty mask the so-called truth which has no logic.
But truth itself is just that convenient theory that a person wants to believe in. And it's true only until new truth appears. And the mind is responsible for the latter.
Mind is built on the ability to evaluate decisions, to contradict, to doubt. This is the principle of creating thought.
But virtual masses, however, lack this principle, because the "masses" initially symbolize rejection from individual thoughts. Masses with the wrong vector are dangerous.
In the face of complete internet-courage and the lack of culture, they tend to have a "massive" amount of time and they win by being massive.
Darwin has said, «Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge». Overconfidence fogs the mind.
And mind is the only thing that makes us human. Although, speaking of Darwinism, it's clearly seen in Instagram that we didn't go far…
My masons have the same point of view and they thank you for understanding.
ヅラヲ１
No matter how long u've written, the fact is fact.please tell us your true feelings when u see the videos
ヅラヲ２
A mature man knows how to say sorry when he is wrong. Can u stop hiding your bad manner on skating rink with your 'imagined' racism.
Be a gentleman, please.
ヅラヲ３
Oh well @tenis_den the videos clearly say so much about your intentions.
You are a tenured skater and I am sure you are aware of the rules.
You clearly violate them and played with your dark tricks.
You mentioning of Darwin's won't back you up. Just apologize and we might forgive you.
ヅラヲ４
Karma is a bitch. Better watch out next season
And you better start focusing on landing your quads properly instead of talking shit on the internet.
Most of the ppl here are just hanyu haters who pretented to be your fans smh.
It's not like they can get your pathetic ass qualified for GPF or a world medal tho.
149 :名無し草 2016/04/04(月) 17:40:41.02 >>77
The Japanese Federation brought an apology and confirmation of the absence of collisions and other charges against Denis.
It was stated that the federation was never going to ask for punishment.
Yuzuru Hanyu yesterday apologized to Denis for this misunderstanding and they shook hands.
An official letter was sent to the Federation of Skating Kazakhstan.
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on behalf of the fan club:
Now let would be a shame to those who doubt the decency and good breeding Denis.
And those who rejoiced in this scandal and writing angry comments Denis address and wanted to improve his mood this - remember, Denis true patriot of his homeland, and he defends the honor of Kazakhstan, ie your country!
The Japanese Federation has apologized and admitted that there was no collision
and that they have no accusations against Denis.
It was also noted that the federation was never supposed to ask for a punishment.
Yuzuru Hanyu apologized to Denis yesterday and the two shook hands.
An official letter has been sent to the Kazakhstani Skaters Federation.
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a message from the fan group:
Now everyone who doubted Denis' manners and behavior can be ashamed of themselves.
Also, those, who enjoyed the scandal and wrote rude comments to Denis, just to have fun,
remember that Denis is a true patriot of his country. He stands under the flag of Kazakhstan,
protecting the honor of his and your country!
Thinking and knowing are two different things.
Everyone always thinks that they know, but nothing more.
"Good", "bad", "you're this!", "he's that!" — all these are just assumptions with no connection to reality.
These assumptions are correct. But only in a closed off world of an individual.
So think your thoughts and don't try to understand mine.
You may read, or don't — it's your life, so live it, enjoy it.
I write for "my family" and I don't make personal remarks.
You got personal yourself.
Speaking of this, text and context are also two separate things.
That's why I'm posting a photo. There's no message here.
What it was and how it happened, it no longer matters. The sky is peaceful.
18 :名無し草 2016/04/05(火) 06:32:47.41
ASTANA. KAZINFORM Japan's Figure Skating Federation expressed its apologies to Olympic Games champion Denis Ten for the incident
with skater Yuzuru Hanyu which occurred at the Boston ISU Figure Skating Championships.
Recall that foreign mass media reported that the sportsmen ran into each other on March 30 during morning practice.
Later, Hanyu supposed that Ten intentionally smashed into him, to injure him.
The Japanese Figure Skating Federation apologized to the Kazakh athlete and denied other accusations against him.
“The Japanese Figure Skating Federation claimed it never requested any punishments.
Yuzuru Hanyu apologized to Denis for this misunderstanding and they shook hands.
An official letter was sent to Kazakhstan’s Figure Skaters Federation,”
a message on Ten’s official community account in VKontakte reads.
Recall that Ten was placed the 11th following the Boston Championships. And Yuzuru Hanyu was awarded a silver medal.
7 :名無し草 2016/04/05(火) 09:05:26.90
04 April 2016, 18:12
Japanese Figure Skating Federation apologized to Denis Ten for incident with Hanyu http://www.inform.kz/eng/article/2888838
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Yuzuru Hanyu doesn’t live in a normal world.
On Saturday night, after the men’s free program, Japanese fans waited and waited for a chance to see their fallen hero, who had squandered a 12-point lead after the men’s short – to win the silver medal, not the gold.
No matter. Well past midnight, the Japanese fans gathered at the TD Garden tunnel where the athlete buses churn to and fro.
Because of Hanyu’s rock star status and all that goes with it, he had his very own shuttle, a large bus with an entourage and a burly security guard. He’s Justin Bieber on skates.
The fans were waiting at the other end of the trip, at the hotel, too. And as the bus chugged up, the fans ran. Hanyu raced past them, eyes straight ahead. Protected.
EXCLUSIVE: The National Skating Federation of Kazakhstan has commented on the Boston incident involving Denis Ten.
The head of the international department of the National Skating Federation of Kazakhstan Tatyana Rusinova
gave a comment aboutsome mass media informing that the Kazakhstani federation received no apologies from their
Japanese colleagues regarding the incident during the World Championships in Boston. "I officially want to say this.
First of all, on Monday I received a call from the Japanese Skating Federation. Secondly, I received an official letter from them.
Every day when I turn on my computer, I see messages from Japanese figureskating fans.
And they apologize for the actions of Yuzuru Hanyu. Some write that they're not fans of Denis, but fans of Hanyu,
and that with his actions he has put Japan to shame.", she said in an interview with a reporter from Kazinform.
06 April 2016, 16:39
EXCLUSIVE. We do not want to mar our relations with Japanese colleagues for one athlete’s misconduct
– Kazakh National Skating Federation
ASTANA. KAZINFORM Head of the International Affairs Department of the Kazakhstan National Skating Federation Tatyana Russinova
commented on reports of some mass media regarding the incident which occurred between Kazakh and Japanese figure skaters Denis Ten and Yuzuru Hanyu at the ISU World Championships in Boston.
“The representatives of Japan’s Figure Skating Federation called me on Monday. I have also received an official letter from them. Every day, when I switch on my computer, what I see?
A plenty of letters and messages from the Japanese figure skating fans. They apologize to us for Hanyu’s behavior. Some of them write that Hanyu’s behavior discredits upon their country,”
said Russinova in an interview to Kazinform correspondent Damir Baimanov.
Tatyana Russinova kindly agreed to read out one of the letters from a Japanese fan:
“I am writing to offer my apology to you for Yuzuru Hanyu’s misconduct and for the actions of his crazy fans.
Japanese fans know that Denis is a noble young man, who will never hurt other skaters. We believe that Hanyu demonstrated a piece of childishness.
It is a shame to Japan. Those who send bad messages to Denis Ten are not real fans of figure skating.
They are just faithful fans of Hanyu justifying any wrongdoings from his side.
I would like Denis and people of Kazakhstan to know that Japanese fans feel sorry for this,” the email reads.
Russinova noted she receives such messages several times a day. She also emphasized Ten’s reaction to the criticism he had to face.
“I saw his posts in social media and I can say that he is a well-mannered young man.
He responds to the comments and messages without giving up to provocations and hysteria,” she pointed out.
According to her, Kazakhstan Skating Federation does not want to mar relations with their Japanese colleagues because of this incident.
“Our colleagues from Japan called us not to lodge complain to the International Skating Union. They urged us to avoid any scandal.
We are closely cooperating with the Japanese Federation. We do not want to mar relations with Japanese for one athlete’s misconduct,
even if he is an Olympic Champion. This is very important. Japanese Federation did their best to make Hanyu be sorry for what he had done,” added Russinova.
Figure skating is not an aggressive sport. Skaters compete against each other, but off the ice they are mostly friendly with each other.
Rivals might sit together in the dining room and have lunch before they go out trying to better each other on the ice a few hours later.
But sometimes their fans think they need to be at war with each other.
In the Men’s short program practice at the practice rink at the World Figure Skating Championships in Boston on Wednesday, March 30,
Japan’s super star Yuzuru Hanyu and Kazakhstan’s Olympic bronze medalist Denis Ten got close to each other on the ice.
This happens sometimes, skaters get too close to each other, maybe not paying enough attention as they are too absorbed in what they are doing.
Several eye witnesses confirmed that Yuzuru was skating to his music while Denis was doing a spin. There was enough room around Denis,
but Yuzuru almost ran into him. There was no physical contact, nobody was hurt. Apparently Yuzuru got upset and yelled at Denis.
It was a minor incident that usually quickly would have been forgotten. Unfortunately, when Yuzuru spoke to the press in the mixed zone that day,
he accused Denis of trying to hurt him and intentionally being in his way. There was no reason for this kind of severe accusation, however,
some media greedily picked it up and blew the whole incident out of proportion.
Who could seriously believe that one skater tried to hurt another skater? I’ve been covering figure skating for more than 20 years now.
I’ve seen many near-collisions in practice and warm up and several actual collisions, but never ever one skater accused another skater
of intentionally trying to do anything wrong. Yuzuru probably said this as he was under high stress and had the terrible accident
on his mind when he collided with Han Yan in the warm up during Cup of China in 2014. So he kind of overreacted,
but some journalists happily used it to create a scandal and even wrote about a “protest” or “complaint”
that the Japanese Skating Federation planned to file.
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As a result, some of Yuzuru’s fans also overreacted and started sending threats and hate mail to Denis.
Authorities in Kazakhstan read the one-sided media reports and were not amused.
There were also reasonable voices from journalists and fans, but they somehow were overheard in the cacophony of the outraged.
Someone even went as far as posting a video from another warm up or practice session where Denis and Yuzuru came close to each other
and used this as “proof”. Get a life. You can see many, many such situations between many different skaters.
Interesting enough, the video of the practice session in Boston was not shown, although Fuji TV was there and taped the session.
There should be footage from the incident, but they don’t release it.
Unfortunately, the Japanese Skating Federation apparently did not realize how the whole situation developed
and did not intervene right away. Only on Saturday team leader Yoshiko Kobayashi told the press that the Federation doesn’t file
any kind of protest and never intended to do so. The Japanese Skating Federation also confirmed this in a letter to the Kazakhstan authorities.
In the end, only both skaters suffered from these careless words in the mixed zone, because Yuzuru received also some criticism.
Yuzuru approached Denis on Saturday, they talked to each other, they shook hands. They closed this chapter, but unfortunately some people
(who think they are fans) still didn’t let go. Even when Denis published a photo of him and Yuzuru shaking hands, they wouldn’t stop arguing.
It is enough now.
And, by the way, in the free skating practice at the main rink on Friday, Yuzuru, who was skating to his music, got really close to Shoma Uno,
who was doing a spin. Shoma just was able to get out of the way in the last second. Would anyone seriously believe that Shoma was intentionally
in Yuzuru’s way or tried to hurt him?
There was a lot of feedback to this article, both negative and positive. There are some people
you can discuss with and some you can’t as everyone has their own truth sometimes.
Therefore I decided not to react to Twitter comments. This matter should be put to rest.
However, I thought over everything again and I edited the article in four places and marked them by stars.
*My main criticism towards Yuzuru Hanyu was that he accused Denis Ten of being intentionally
in his way or even “trying to hurt him”. This criticism was based on an article that quoted
Yuzuru in that way. However, I did not make it clear that I relied on a quote in an article.
The quote in the article might have been distorted or wrong as some people say. I cannot prove
one or the other as I have no voice recording from the mixed zone.
**I took out “Yuzuru’s fans” as some of his honest fans felt offended as they never would send
hate mail or nasty comments. I do not want to blame all of his fans. There are just some nasty
people out there that hide in the anonymity of the internet, they are not necessarily Yuzuru’s fans.
***I changed “careless words in the mixed zone” to “incident”.
**** I added another paragraph to make my point clear. I realize that many people read this article
who don’t know English so well and they might not completely understand all nuances.
This article is not directed against Yuzuru Hanyu or any other skater and it is not about who was doing
what in the practice session. The main point of this article is to illustrate what can happen
when comments are blown out of proportion and to criticize those people that continue to fight
even after the issue has been settled by the skaters.
