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1名無しの関学生:2008/10/18(土) 15:31:40
と思わないか?

30名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 12:32:05
>>27
石油がなければ同じというのは、
ロシア、アメリカ、中東すべてにあてはまる批判にすぎない。

31名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 12:37:05
生産手段の共有化。21世紀の人類を救う政策。

32名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 12:39:30
結局、資本主義を取り入れて成功したから生き延びているわけで
それは共産主義の自己矛盾・自己否定なわけで
世の中限られた資本・資源しかない究極の競争社会であるわけで
共産主義(笑)ということなのです

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35名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 15:24:52
>>32
マルクス・エンゲルスの『共産党宣言』は資本主義を讃美しとるぞ。
あれは資本主義を持ち上げる本。資本主義は素晴らしい、
資本主義の生産力はすごいと。すさまじすぎて、崩壊すると。
好きで好きで好きすぎて、嫌いになってしまう。真山のこと。

弁証法はドラマチック。ハチクロなみにドラマチック。

36名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 16:30:54
つまり適度な資本主義がいいということですね。
資本主義の修正は確かに必要ですが、共産主義は論外ですね。
今はちょうどその修正過程なのかもしれませんね。

37名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 16:38:25
修正した時点で資本主義ではありません。
公的なコントロールが入るということですから、
社会主義・共産主義と呼んだ方が実態をよく表すのです。

38名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 16:42:27
一時的な公的介入をなぜ社会主義・共産主義と呼ぶのですか?

39名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 17:21:25
一時的にしろ公的介入のある社会をなぜ資本主義と呼べるのですか?

40名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 17:41:32
結局資本主義に戻るからです。

41名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 17:45:43
原則論はやっぱレッセフェールでしょ。
社会主義をベースにした資本主義的修正ではなく、
資本主義をベースにした社会主義的修正と考えるのが自然。
というか、そうでないと自由と権利を手にした人間を納得させられません。

42名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 18:34:53
もし、一日にパンを4億個生産できる生産手段が日本国内にあったとして
毎日日本の全国民に3個ずつ配ったら、それは社会主義です。

資本主義では、4億個作れる生産手段があっても、1億個しか作らず、
そのうち5千万個を廃棄します。

社会主義では、パンを食べたくない人にもパンが給食としてでますから、
その意味でメニュー選択の自由はありません。
資本主義では、パンを食べたい人がいても金がなければパンを食べることができません。
目の前にパンがたくさんあるのにです。
資本主義の自由は、手元に金があることが大前提の自由です。

43名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 18:54:42
世界中の人間が全員先進国並の生活ができるほどの生産手段も資源もないよ。
限られた経済的資源をめぐる競争状態下でみんな仲良く生活の質を落として
富の再配分できると思いますか?人類みな平等なんて実現可能性のない建前はどうでもいい。
それこそまさに絵に描いた餅。

社会主義が原則論になることは絶対ない。
自然状態の生存競争では淘汰される国・民族がいて当然。
ただ、そこは人間の理性で修正されていく。
それが資本主義の社会主義的修正・変容だと思うよ。
資本家の欲望の暴走があったからこそ、発展途上国へのハイリスク投資に
よる間接的な富の再配分があったのも事実。
共産主義は今まで人類にどんな発展をもたらしましたか?

44名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 19:49:29
国連穀物食糧期間の調べによると、全世界における年間穀物生産量は20億トン。

世界人口60億人で頭割りすると、一人年間333kg。
穀物1kg当たり3000kcalとして、年間摂取kcalは約100万kcal。


現在の生産力で、飢餓は完全に撲滅する。

45名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 20:05:07
ただの理想論

46名無しの関学生:2008/10/21(火) 20:12:19
イデアを唱えてそれに向かうのが人間。

47名無しの関学生:2009/07/11(土) 15:33:32
赤旗の2009年7月5日号に関学生が出ているぞ!!

新聞で名乗って出ているのだから 関学ちゃんねるでも実名を挙げるが
関学3回生で 上園隆 という者だ。
日本民主青年同盟の一員だと言っている。
「マルキスト」というパンクバンドをしてると言っている。

バリバリのアカだ。
関学でアカの活動は許されているのか?

48名無しの関学生:2009/07/11(土) 15:35:35
赤旗の2009年7月5日号の13ページだ。

49名無しの関学生:2009/07/11(土) 15:57:56
今のところ「活動拠点となっている主な大学」に関学は入っていないけど
こういう者を放置しておくと関学でコツコツとオルグ開いて関学にアカを撒き散らす恐れがあるのではないのか?


日本民主青年同盟 - Wikipedia
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50名無しの関学生:2009/07/12(日) 15:25:14
★創価学会員が妨害、共産党の演説中に暴行


札幌市白石区で11日午前10時20分、日本共産党の宮内聡衆院北海道比例予定候補が
演説しているところへ60歳ぐらいの男が「うるさい、やめろ」と叫びながら近づき、
党札幌白石・厚別地区委員会の男性勤務員(49)に殴りかかりました。

男は、知らせで駆け付けた警察官に取り押さえられ、傷害容疑で現行犯逮捕されました。
現場は区内栄通2丁目のエルム公園前で、男は付近に住む創価学会員です。

男に殴られた勤務員は軽いけがを負いました。宮内予定候補にけがはありませんでした。

宮内予定候補は事件後、伊藤りち子市議とともに区内を遊説。
「企業・団体献金を一切受け取らない清潔な党だからこそ、なにものも恐れず堂々とモノがいえます。
暴力で政策論戦を抑えつけることは断じて許せません」と強調しました。

宣伝カーの訴えを聞いて集まった近所の人たちが声援と拍手を送っていました。

近くに住む男性(79)は「宮内さんの演説は力強く、その通りだと思います。
ぜひ国会へいってほしい」と話します。

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51名無しの関学生:2009/07/12(日) 17:38:46
>>47 関学でアカの活動は許されているのか?

うちには言論の自由はないのか?
共産党支持派は一人もいないのか?

共産党の考え方も偏っているけど、
そうだとしたら関学も偏った人種の集まりになってしまう
危険なことだ

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