はい、次よ。
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11) Embryos generated by tetraploid complementation should be taken to term. In figure S5E, the example of the BDF1/GFP embryo presented does not look normal.
僕が言ってるのはネイチャー査読者がoffspringとfoetusesを区別せよと言ってることに対して、
小保方さんが線を入れたのならBDF1はfoetusesでなければならないが、線の上下ともoffspringだと
指摘しているんだよ。生まれた子だ。Table 1がどういうものであったかは分からないけどね。
some of the chimaeras are analysed as foetusesだったのならそれは取り除かれているよね。
線を入れる必要はないと思うけど。
「*All fetuses were collected at 13.5 d.p.c. to 15.5 d.p.c. and the contribution rate of STAP cells into each organ was examined by FACS.」
この48だけ交配後13.5〜15.5日の胎児の状態で取り出して解析しているから区別をつけなさいという意味では?
98: 名無しさん :2019/01/17(木) 11:21:03 >>93
Nature誌の査読で
「Table 1 reports offspring, but some of the chimaeras are analysed as foetuses. Please discriminate.」
と指摘されたときに入れたラインでしょう
アンダーラインの件は間違いないね。ただ、これはこれで今度は査読指摘の方が
問題になるね。若山さんって世界一の名人でしょ。Embryos generated by tetraploid complementation
should be taken to term.って、誰に向かって言ってるんだというたぐいの話になるね。
そのくらいじゃないの。現物見ないと演繹には限界があるわ。つぎ行くわよ。
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12) Regarding the existing molecular data on the identity of the cell lines, the embryonic gene expression qPCRs (Figure 2B, S3C) show unusually high values for expression levels relative to GAPDH levels. Even though the figure has an ESC control, and it may be a primer-specific phenomenon, mRNA levels of genes such as Nanog and Rex1 are more like 0.05 or 0.15 of GAPDH levels, whereas the authors observed levels as high as 12 -14 times GAPDH.
というわけで遺伝子解析に関しては参考程度という研究だということね。なによりも
キメラがきているという前提での論旨なので、そもそも重要度が落ちると。書かれていることはごもっともだと
後に相澤さんと丹羽さんが同意していると。つぎね。
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13) The authors did not describe “the low pH solution (pH5.5)” treatment in detail (Methods). The authors need to provide a detailed description of what the composition of the pH solution was, how long the treatment was, and how the cells were handled.
次も似たような事情かしらね。
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14) The authors did not describe the substrate used during conversion. Did they use feeders or gelatin? These are the conventional substrates on which pluripotent stem cells are derived and maintained.
はい、次ね。
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15) Because the authors claimed a combination of pH decrease and mechanical stress caused Oct4 reactivation, the authors should show data indicating how the two procedures additively or synergistically promote Oct4-GFP reactivation.
はい、つぎよ。
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16) Figure S1C — the authors quantified the number of spherical colonies, but they did not provide a normalization. This figure would additionally be significantly enhanced if the authors showed the morphologies of the spherical colonies they are obtaining in the different culture conditions
スフィア塊のでき方を説明しているんでしょうね。次よ。
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17) A more detailed description on the composition of the different media tested was not provided (Figure S1C). Additionally, ACTH is not conventionally used for pluripotent stem cell culture. The manuscript would be enhanced if the authors provided an explanation for the use of ACTH.
21で終わりなんだけど時間ないわね。後になさい。つぎよ。
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18) Decreased cellular size is a feature of pluripotent stem cells, but the authors did not include data or a discussion on the ESCs/iPSCs cell size in their examination of cell size (Figure 1D).
「*All fetuses were collected at 13.5 d.p.c. to 15.5 d.p.c. and the contribution rate of STAP cells into each organ was examined by FACS.」
この48だけ交配後13.5〜15.5日の胎児の状態で取り出して解析しているから区別をつけなさいという意味では?