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72考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:10:08 ID:eMbzXFPI0
Forum posting etiquette

1 Requests for links to, or support for, pirated/cracked software are expressly forbidden. Offending posts are liable to be removed and persistent offenders will be banned from the forums. Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH reserves the right to report and ban the IP address of persistent offenders.
2 Threats, abusive language, “NSFW”/inappropriate content/links and general “trolling” will not be tolerated.
3 By the same point, please ensure that if you choose to use an Avatar (the picture under your username) that it is in good taste, “SFW” and adheres to forum guidelines — no profanity or adult content is permitted. The same applies for any images linked or uploaded to posts you make or uploaded to your User Profile page.
4 Please only start threads once and in the correct forum. Threads or posts cross-posted in multiple sub forums may all be deleted. In addition, please do not “bump” multiple threads with the same response — pick the most appropriate place for your post and post it in one place only.
5 Spam posts. If you stumble across a post which is obviously spam/generated by a spambot, please do not reply to the thread. Simply use the “report” button and a moderator will take care of it. Spambots don’t care what kind of sarcasm you write back at them — their sole goal is to populate search engine results with their garbage, so by replying to those posts you are probably making the problem worse.
6 No shouting. Posting in ALL CAPITALS is considered bad form and the equivalent of shouting. Resist all temptation to use them, for there is a chance your post will be deleted or ignored by other members.
7 Please stick to the topic at hand. Off-topic posts will be deleted, and you may be banned from threads and/or entire forums for repeating offenses. It is fine to be critical of a product, but if you go on and on and on about it, especially if the topic isn’t related to your criticism, then this will be considered “off-topic”.
8 Please keep your forum signature tasteful and as subtle as possible. Posts from users with annoyingly large, rude or complex signatures are more likely to be ignored by other members. Please also refrain from including anything political or religious in your signature — you will be asked to change it and may lose your signature privileges.
9 Unfortunately the Steinberg Forums sometimes attract the attention of Internet trolls who seek to cause disharmony among the legitimate users by making spurious or inflammatory posts. Please do not feed the troll, specially after midnight. Anyone suspected of this kind of behavior will be warned by the moderating team (check your forum’s Private Messages). Continued inappropriate posts will result in the immediate deletion of their user account.
10 Do not harass or insult other members via the Private Messaging system or via the “E-mail User” proxy service we offer. Doing so may get your account banned permanently.

73考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:10:25 ID:eMbzXFPI0
11 You may post grievances you are having with our software, dealers, etc., but you may not “call out” companies or people by name in your thread title. Please note that we may edit or remove these threads/posts without warning. Please only post this type of thread if all other avenues of resolution are exhausted and a suitable amount of time has passed. For example, national/bank holidays, trade shows, etc. can influence shipping and communication time. Be sure that you’ve taken everything into account first. If you have any doubts, please contact a moderator first.
12 The Steinberg Forum’s user base comprises people from all different backgrounds and skill levels: from people who just bought their first audio interface today to seasoned award-winning professionals who have forgotten more about their craft than some of us will ever know. Please allow “newbies” to find their way without pressure and ridicule — we were all “noobs” at one time — and help them where you can. By the same token, please respect that some of our “senior” and well-respected forum members did not get to where they are today by knowing nothing. Please show appropriate respect, even when you disagree with them. If you are seen to be “driving away” more senior members it is likely your access will be restricted! Additionally, although this is an English/German-speaking forum and we require posts to be in English or German, please tolerate imperfect spelling and grammar from our non-native speaking members.
13 The community works best when its members self-police. Please use the Report button on posts in order to bring them to a moderator’s attention. You can use this for everything from spam reporting to abusive member conduct to even to report posts that are obviously in the wrong place. Please do not abuse the Report function (and it’s most certainly not to be used simply because you disagree with another user). We rely on reported posts to help police the site. so thanks in advance for your help!
14 Please treat others like you would like to be treated: healthy arguments are absolutely welcomed, but if they get out of hand your forum access may be put at risk! Please note that you can “block” users via an “Add Foe” feature found in the drop-down menu under the user's name. Please use this feature if another user is causing you problems that cannot be solved by simply ignoring them. Please also do not engage with anyone who is obviously “trolling” — any posts you make which quote the “troll” may be permanently deleted without warning, even if they otherwise include valuable information. Use the Report button and the Ignore List instead!

74考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:10:50 ID:eMbzXFPI0
Warnings and banning

1 The first time you breach one of the above mentioned points you will receive a warning, anybody can make mistakes.
2 Like in football, if you receive a second warning you will be suspended temporarily from the forums. The time can vary depending on the seriousness of the fault.
3 There will be no third warning. The next time you fail to comply with the forum rules your account will be banned permanently.

75考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:20:31 ID:eMbzXFPI0
How to notify us of objectionable material

1 If you feel that a posted message is objectionable, please alert the moderators of that forum by clicking on the exclamation mark (!) icon of the post in question. The Forum administrators and moderators can remove objectionable messages, and we will make every effort to do so as soon as we can, if we determine that a removal is necessary.
2 You may also contact us by email through forumadmin(tb)steinberg.net.


ざっと読んだところ、かなりすっきりしている。
基本条件
ルール
警告とban
違反の報告方法

adminがなにかごちゃごちゃを悪巧みをするような贅肉がない。

一流企業の一流商品がテーマとなるフォーラムなので、modが「modであることを誇るために存在する」なんてことがまず有り得ない。
大体、企業のサービスのひとつとして開かれているので、有志によるボランティアではない分、権力者に信頼がおける。

英語は、なんとか頑張って読んでみてくれ。難しく書かれてはいない。
元はというか本格的にドイツ企業なので、アメリカ英語ではない。また、その辺の空気も多少違う。
オフトピックがbanになると書かれているが、その理由も書いてある。また自分の唱えるcriticismとの関連性と言うように、批判内容を吟味する姿勢を示している。

とはいうものの、俺は未だにここのフォーラムのアカウントアクティベーションのメールすら届けられていない状態であるが。
なぜだろう。gmailなのが悪いのか、登録製品に使ったアドレスでないといけないのか、わからない。

76考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:23:07 ID:eMbzXFPI0
I registered in the past but cannot login any more?!
It is possible an administrator has deactivated or deleted your account for some reason. Also, many boards periodically remove users who have not posted for a long time to reduce the size of the database. If this has happened, try registering again and being more involved in discussions.

FAQにあるこれなんて笑える。

アクティブユーザーでないと消される。

77考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:24:45 ID:eMbzXFPI0
と言うことは、登録するには半年ROMれ、ってことか。まじかよ。

ドイツの陰険さは凄いな。

78考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:30:22 ID:eMbzXFPI0
What are my Friends and Foes lists?
You can use these lists to organise other members of the board. Members added to your friends list will be listed within your User Control Panel for quick access to see their online status and to send them private messages. Subject to template support, posts from these users may also be highlighted. If you add a user to your foes list, any posts they make will be hidden by default.

DVUVが無い代わりにフレンド・敵リストというのがあるらしい。
フレンドリストはPMが使えるようになり、敵リストは相手のレスが標準で不可視になる。

redditよりは個人主義だ。また、フォーラム上のコンテンツの状態表示を個人の視界内で解決している。(カルマが低いと全員から見えなくなる、という考え方ではない)

79考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:34:03 ID:eMbzXFPI0
https://www.phpbb.com/
例えば、このsteinberg.netのフォーラムはこのURLのphpbbを使って作られている。

なんかね、ウェブサービス提供の仕事をしている人達とかが、こういうフォーラムのフレームワークに携わって行くにつれて、自分がmodになって住人を箱庭に入れて管理したい、という欲望を持つ傾向があるかもしれないね。

redditは、そんな欲望を叶える、疑似ウェブホスティングスペースという感じだ。まあ、要するに、redditユーザーはキモい。

80考える名無しさん:2016/02/19(金) 19:38:44 ID:eMbzXFPI0
そんな「ボクの箱庭管理」なんかには飽きてもいるし興味のない俺などは、ドメイン名を取って、有料レンタルサーバーを借りている現在でも、そういうフォーラム・SNSを設置する気が全くない。

その欲望を持っている人達の人生は、上手く行ってないと思う。その技術の可能性に魅せられて戯れて、結局「実際の社会で何をするのか」という部分をほったらかしたまま管理ゲームに没頭したいだけなので、ソシャゲ課金ユーザーと全く同じ。

reddit modは人生の時間を課金しながらサブレ管理ソシャゲで遊んでいる。 遊んでいる。 遊んでいるから、碌なサブレがないわけだ。あいつらの立ち方はビジネスでは有り得ない。


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