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TOEIC lovers vs. TOEIC haters 9/24

1Masaya:2013/11/15(金) 22:07:09
Give us your comments on the TOEIC. Cheers.

2English learner:2013/11/24(日) 20:51:50
I love TOEIC because I can learn English basic effectively. Actually, I intensified
my English skills through TOEIC last year. At that time, I learned many vocabularies
grammars, listening skills by practicing for TOEIC, and what's more I could get
many friends on SNS. I think these are attraction of TOEIC. Probably, I was a addict
of TOEIC. I'm sorry I wrote poor expression. I hope this radio will be good meeting.
Thank you.

3English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:04:27
Sorry I can't hear Joe's voice. I can only hear Masaya.

4anonymous:2013/11/24(日) 21:05:06
I cannot hear JOE's voice...

5Sari:2013/11/24(日) 21:05:56
聞こえるようになりました。

6ごろぞう:2013/11/24(日) 21:07:47
I don't really like the TOEIC test; however, I like TOEIC lovers!
Long time no see, JOE, KIYO, Jun!!!

7English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:08:35
Has Joe taken TOEIC before?

8mako:2013/11/24(日) 21:19:08
I don't really like TOEIC, too.
I feel the atomosphre like lower score holders don't have any rights to talk about English.

9English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:21:06
The sound is echoing!

10English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:21:53
Wow, a perfect score holder didn't know the word, "practice test"....

11★AKIKO★:2013/11/24(日) 21:22:23
Hi guys!I really enjoy listening ur radio!
I'm not an eager beaver though I love TOEIC!

12English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:25:00
I think a good idea that TOEIC includes reading, listening, speaking and writing section altogether like TOEFL.

Why does ETS make test LR and SW separate?

How do you improve pronunciation and writing skill?

13English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:25:10
voices are reverberating

14名無しM:2013/11/24(日) 21:29:24
GMAT exam includes math(Quantitative).

15miya:2013/11/24(日) 21:30:17
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The Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT, /ˈdʒiːmæt/ JEE-mat) is a computer adaptive test (CAT) which assesses a person's analytical, writing, quantitative, verbal, and reading skills in standard written English in preparation for being admitted into a graduate management program, such as an MBA

16English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:31:34
KIYO-san, are you nervous taking SW test? I think you can get high score on it. You're speaking really fluently

17miya:2013/11/24(日) 21:34:36
Taking TOEIC test is a kind of playing a game, I feel the same.

18English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:43:58
Jun's been having hard time....

19English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:47:11
Does KIYO have a desire to be punished by his MISTRESS?

20English learner:2013/11/24(日) 21:56:33
Masaya should select guest speaker carefully.
Even if he or she is able to speak English fluently, barbarians are shame.

21English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:00:27
When do they touch on this BBS? Almost an hour has passed.

22English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:01:56
I totally agree with KIYOsan's idea. It's a very idea
that English learners use TOEIC materials when starting studying English.
I recommend they set a time limit for using the materials
if they really want to improve their English skills.

However, I don't care whether Heavy TOEICkers do only TOEIC training or not.
I don't understand why TOEIC haters mind TOEICkers behaviors so much.
Can't TOEIC haters leave TOEICkers in peace??

23English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:04:33
Kiyo's voice sometimes sounds like Masaya's.

24English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:05:06
Joe, don't knock TOEIC till you try it!

25English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:13:13
What are toeic lovers seeing beyond

26名無しM:2013/11/24(日) 22:15:58
I hear the TOEIC Test uses Common-Item Nonequivalent Group Design.
This design requires strong statistical assumptions regarding relationship
between scores on common items(リサイクル問題) and total test.
I worry that these assumptions could be broken down by public review of
the test. But I love TBR.

27English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:16:05
Some people think TOEIC is strange in that people never bury coworkers and there are no people who are poor at communicating with people in test.

Are you all native speaker except Kanzaki sensei?
What's your job?

28JAM:2013/11/24(日) 22:22:06
I don't love TOEIC. I don't hate it,either.
But I do love learning English.
TOEIC is just a tool to improve my English.
I just enjoy using that tool. That's all.

As reading materials,TOEIC is boring for me
when I just pick up info.
So TOEIC is just a series of tasks.

Eiken,entrance exams or books are more interesting
, full of information and wisdom which help us build
our characters as human-beings.

However,one of adavantages about TOEIC is that
it is not 'passed' or 'failed'..but you can get specific scores
which are useful to set up your short-term goal.

You would never be a loser , even though you got lower scores
than before as long as you wouldn't quit learning.
Enjoy learning English and your life☆

29English learner:2013/11/24(日) 22:31:16
Joe as a TOEIC hater, do you think TOEIC lovers English is bad? What do you think of Kiyo and Jun's English?

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