Mr. Bush: Oh, I don’t know. He hasn’t gotten elected yet. He hasn’t even gotten the party’s nomination. He’s an attractive guy. He’s articulate. I’ve been impressed with him when I’ve seen him in person, but he’s got a long way to go to be president.
I guess he was saying he's done so repeatedly in the past whenever he was with him.
Another example from Language Log!
(I've often been a little annoyed when I've had to scroll down an alphabetically sorted list of countries to get to "United States" in a drop-down menu ― but I'm certainly not compelled to complain about something so trivial.)
By the way, it's very interesting to see these unusual example of the present perfect.
I read in a grammar book that Americans use the present perfect less frequently than the British; they use the past simple where the British use the present perfect.
It seems like Americans use the present perfect where the British use the past simple, which is totally new to me.
I guess they are talking about a number of times, not just once. With simple past it could be only once, right? With present perfect, it should be a number of times.
>>23 Ah, a repeated action, then. So. let me clarify
1. I’ve told Barack Obama when I’ve met with him.<- repeated action in the past
2. I told Barack Obama when I met with him. <- Just once in the past
3. I tell Barack Obama when I meet with him. <- repeated action in the present
BH1) "When these faces rise or those voices matter, he has until now told himself the old lie, that once there was a frightened boy who caught his mother's neurotic terror like a cold and made up a story, a grand fantasy with good old Mom-saving Jack Sawyer at its center."
The sentence above isn't really the one I was looking for, but it's still interesting enough to be noted here. From Stephen King's "Black House" (co-authored by Peter Straub).
>>33
Thanks for the quote. "Until now" is an important element of the present perfect.
I remember something. Do you a poem called Easter 1916 by W. B. Yeats?
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I have met them at close of day
Coming with vivid faces
From counter or desk among grey
Eighteenth-century houses.
I have passed with a nod of the head
Or polite meaningless words,
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In the first, fifth and seventh lines, he used the present perfect.
"I have met them at close of day"
"I have passed with a nod of the head "
"Or have lingered awhile and said"
I have always thought it should be the past simple instead of the present perfect grammartically
because his friends, those who played key roles in the uprising, were dead (or were going to be excuted soon) when this poem was written.
I thought Yeats had bent grammar for a poetic effect but now I know this usage is grammarical.
Here he is describing repeated actions up until now, which makes perfect sense.
3) When I study English, it's usually been at home.
4-c) Whenever I study English, it's always been at home, but I'll try something new tomorrow.
The reason why you consider the above two as problematic is that the present perfect tense in “it's usually been at home” implies repeated actions in the past, but doesn’t fit the present tense in the adverbial clause “When I study English”? Then, you think 2) best describes the situation?
If so, what do you think the difference between these two is?
2) When I've studied English, it's usually been at home.
2-a) Whenever I studied English, it would usually be at home.
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