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1mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/02/16(金) 20:24:07 ID:NxmzjoAw
EBに関する質問はここで受け付けます。
まずは 初心者へのアドバイス http://www.geocities.jp/mweb2007/bigin.html を読んでください。

2mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/03/16(金) 21:29:17 ID:nFaKPtSU
さっぱり質問もないわけだけど(´・ω・`)
初心者から脱却して天恵16オーバーあたりの中級者の人に武器の選び方を解説しておきます。
武器には大きくわけて射撃武器と白兵武器がある。
ファンネル系武器というのもあるけど、これはNT系の解説のときに詳しくね。
そして例外もあるけど強力な武器には白兵武器が多い。白兵武器というのは剣とか斧とか手に持って戦う武器ね。
例としては愛の両手オラオラ (これは武器というよりもコブシだけど) 二刀流サイコブレード ディスカッター 愛の鞭とかが白兵武器
一方で防具(機体)には剛力効果がついているものがあり、白兵武器と剛力機体をセットで使うと基本攻撃回数+2回の攻撃になる。
基本攻撃回数は武器リストに書いてあるが、これは多いほど強いというわけではなく白兵武器の場合は少ないほどこの白兵剛力効果が強く発揮されるのだね。
つまり基本攻撃回数1回の白兵武器を剛力効果機体とセットで使うと攻撃回数が3回になる=威力が3倍になる。
基本攻撃回数2回の武器の場合は剛力補正で4回 つまり威力2倍 基本3回の場合は1.7倍という感じ。
ただし消費弾薬の1.2倍になることに注意。

3mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/03/16(金) 21:42:27 ID:nFaKPtSU
この白兵ー剛力補正のセット品を選ぶことが強いセット武器の基本
剛力効果付き機体には天下無双ゴッドガンダム 空飛ぶ魔神 偉大な魔神 サーバイン ザムジードとか強力なのが多い。最強機体であるグランゾンも剛力効果付きだな。

次にセット効果というのがあり、
霊力 ハイパーオーラの剣+サーバイン
契約 コスモノヴァ+ザムジード グランゾン
VS ストライククロー+ヴァサーゴ とかの組み合わせで使うとだいたい攻撃回数が増えて弾薬消費が減る方向の効果が出る
上に上げた例は白兵剛力補正とセット補正が重なっている例
しかしサーバイン作ったからと言ってハイパーオーラの剣とのセット使用が一番だとは限らない。
基本性能が高いコスモノヴァや愛オラあたりと組み合すほうがいいだろね。
セット効果の中にはストライククロー サテライトキャノン ダブルビームサイズとかのように単体では幸運効果ないけどセットで使うと幸運効果がつくものもある。

4mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/03/16(金) 21:48:47 ID:nFaKPtSU
どの武器が強いのかは武器リストやとっとHPで確認するといいんだが、攻撃力 回数 効果がどんなのか見ての判断は当然ではあるが特殊作戦の補正値を見ることも重要。
ボスを倒すには特殊作戦オンリーでないと無理だから、この特殊作戦での速度補正が3倍以上の武器で挑みたい。
爆熱とかハイパーオーラはこの点で力不足となるのだね。

今のところ普通(とはいえレアだが)の白兵武器で最強なのは愛オラだと思う。
しかし高いから次点としてはコスモノヴァあたりを使うといいだろな。

5mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/03/17(土) 20:56:14 ID:5Vdh3i3w
武器リストで見る攻撃力表示は、あんまりあてにしないほうがいい。
どうも本来の攻撃力と表示とが異なる武器があるのだね。
満漢全席なんかも表示ではNT15だけどNTMXのダメージを出せる。
だいたいは入手難度の高い武器は強いと思うので間違ってないよ。

6ベル ◆zPPrkQgAxk:2007/03/19(月) 07:17:55 ID:5iyIwXnY
次のオリ素体に相転移砲を考えているのですが、ほんまもんを使って作る価値はあると思いますでしょうか?

7mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/03/19(月) 20:33:02 ID:P4oJvLjw
難しい質問だな・・・
普通なら自分でいろいろ試せという答えですむところだけど、ほんまもん融合は簡単にはできんからな
ポイントは攻撃力がNTMX表示なだけであって実際の攻撃力の違いがわからないというところだろうとは思う。
初期攻撃力がNTMX未満なら推測もつくんだが初期攻撃力からNTMXの場合はNT25なのか40なのか不明だからね。
細かい数値を公表することは控えるが、ほんまもん融合品はほんまもん単体よりも与えるダメージはでかいということはたしか。
相転移砲は他のほんまもん融合品よりも特殊作戦補正値がバランスよく優秀であり、狙うのなら正解だとは思うな。
もう一つのポイントは消費弾薬が少ないこと
オリには消費弾薬関係ないわけだけど、オリでないなら戦争でも使える点がいいだろね。
だから作って損はないだろとは思うけど、融合すれば元には戻せないてところがな
自分にはそんな根性はない(笑)
宝くじなんかで年間2個は提供していくつもり、それで運よく2個ゲットしたときに考えるとかかもなー

8はるる ◆ScvVD1/d8I:2007/04/04(水) 19:52:09 ID:8QGdT.Yg
サーバインと組み合わせるオリ武器について質問させていただきます。
手持ちの武器から
トランスフェイズ魚雷+白兵・・威力上昇(これが 強そうw)
トランスフェイズ魚雷+霊力・・速度UP 攻撃回数+1(攻撃 避けまくり)
コスモノヴァ+万能・・白兵剛力効果 (苦手なし)
このあたりで考えてますがどうでしょうか?
アトミックパンチ等は、特殊作戦が使えるLVに達しておりません。。
ご意見 お願いします^^

9カズヤ ◆2/EGM89maQ:2007/04/04(水) 20:21:06 ID:k2ON.mic
あんまり詳しくないですけど意見書いときますね。
個人的にお奨めかな、と思うのは魚雷に白兵ってのですね。
白兵が付いてればサーバイン以外の剛力付き防具でも使えるようになりますから。

でも一旦試してみて気に入らなかったら変更してみる事をお奨めします。

10mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/04/04(水) 20:39:04 ID:r4aPCo5k
はるるも初めて1ヶ月経過して そろそろオリが近づいてきたてところだな。

サーバインの霊力 グランゾンの契約 ともに攻撃回数+1回 速度補正がつく
この速度補正というのが重要であり他のセット効果よりも有用なのだね。
しかし気をつけないといけないことは、この速度補正というのは白兵武器にしか効果発揮しないという点。
だからトラ+霊力では意味なしだな。
トラは自分の好きな武器ではあるんだけど、1回の改造ではあまり強力な武器にはならないだろね。

サーバインとセットにするのならコスモ+霊力が一番いいだろと思うよ。
あとアトミックパンチの特殊作戦使用可能レベルは1500ではあるんだけど、オリ化すればレベル関係なく使えたり(笑)

11はるる ◆ScvVD1/d8I:2007/04/04(水) 21:07:22 ID:8QGdT.Yg
カズヤさん mweさん ありがとうございます。
白兵を付ければ、サーバイン以外の剛力付き防具でも使えるようになる。
これはかなり魅力的な話です。
コスモ+霊力・・考えてもいませんでした。
オリ化すればレベル関係なく使える。。
勉強になりました。参考にさせていただきます。
また よろしくお願いします。

12ベル ◆zPPrkQgAxk:2007/04/14(土) 00:30:39 ID:sFI3EwgM
今後アイテムコンバーターへの破棄価格の変動は
①1〜2ヶ月くらいに1回②6ヶ月〜1年くらいに1回③あの金額で固定④その他
のどれに当たるでしょうか?

13mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/04/14(土) 01:47:07 ID:OsvsDwMs
うーん 単純に相場と連動しての変更はしないつもりではあるが、やはりある程度は需要動向も見て変更していくつもりではある。
だから、今後の新人の増え具合なんかも関係してくることだから、一概にどれくらいの期間で変更するとは明言できんな。
まあ目安としては②あたりかな。ただし一部の変更は随時していく場合もある。
シュツルムや分割式砲架内蔵シールドの価値は現在では5000万程度だと思ってるけど、これなんかも意図的に現在の価格にしてる。
まあその理由は今月末くらいにわかるかも(笑)

14ベル ◆zPPrkQgAxk:2007/05/11(金) 18:38:55 ID:???
武器調整や新武器リリース等が行われる予定は近い内またはいずれかにはあるのでしょうか?

15mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/05/11(金) 20:18:55 ID:kj0NND0g
現段階では明確なことは発表できないんだけど水面下ではいろいろ計画してる。
期待しておいてもらうのでいいよ。

16ベル ◆zPPrkQgAxk:2007/05/11(金) 23:31:27 ID:???
という事はまだむやみに物は破棄しない方が良いという事ですかね…回答どうもです。

17青眼白龍 ◆Gc4QFaCfEg:2007/05/19(土) 23:38:51 ID:vdoQVV2I
確認の為のような感じで質問なんですが
高確率(天恵16まで素振りでも拾える状態)が
始まるのは Lv451 Lv401 どちらでしょうか?

18mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/05/20(日) 01:23:06 ID:L5HIIr02
レベル401よ
初心者へのアドバイスに書いてるだろね

19青眼白龍 ◆Gc4QFaCfEg:2007/05/20(日) 01:44:50 ID:vdoQVV2I
ありゃ・・
自分がその当時だった頃はLv451からだった気がしまして〜
(気のせいかもしれないです
ちゃんと見たら普通に書いてありました
ありがとうございますヽ( ゚∀゚)ノ

20mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/05/20(日) 02:06:23 ID:L5HIIr02
いや 昔は451からだったんだけどな(笑)

401から5個→451から15個→401から15個(高確率表示だけは5個で消える)という変遷ね。

21青眼白龍 ◆Gc4QFaCfEg:2007/06/03(日) 20:04:36 ID:vdoQVV2I
セット効果は増やす予定などはあるのでしょうか?
V2ガンダムにセット効果云々などが噂されていた
ような気があったので。

22mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/06/03(日) 20:35:13 ID:F1icoA7U
予定はある
魔神 偉大な魔神 縮退武器 イデオン マクロスとかな
ただ、効果と融合方法の仕込みは現在は無理であり独立後に可能となりたいとは思ってるけど確証はないてところ。

23青眼白龍 ◆Gc4QFaCfEg:2007/06/12(火) 17:46:54 ID:vdoQVV2I
ボス装備のAタイプを選んだ場合
武器の特殊作戦の速度補正を4倍にする
という効果ですが、超威力ビグザム主砲やEVA零号機など
武器リストに表記されているものはすべて有効なのでしょうか?

24mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/06/12(火) 22:08:48 ID:4VqYQVvQ
ボス装備なんだから、そういう制限はない。
なんでもOKよ。

25ノア ◆tExVepsVvg:2007/07/01(日) 01:45:07 ID:???
新しいmweEB開設おめでとう。鈴さんのほうが戦闘できない場合は移動させてもらうかもしれない
ゲスト伽羅も廃止したみたいで内部関係での質問は出来ないんだがmweEBのほうは伽羅転送は許可していくつもりなのかい?
鈴EB 旧mweEBやってた人には関係ない話かもしれないけど↑(これをあげたら↓になるか)にもあるとおりそういう質問してる人もいてるから
これが質問ということで。

捕捉だけどmweEBにもし移動した前提での話だけどちゃんとルール通りにプレイするんで邪険にしないでねヾ(゚ω゚)ノ゛

27mwe ◆SQtk.0h2J6:2007/07/01(日) 08:20:07 ID:6P2ry7QU
移行手順 http://www.geocities.jp/mweb2007/tejun.html にも書いてあるように他のEBからのインポートは今のところは許可にしてある。
これを許可することで問題発生することが多くて不許可にしてるところが多いみたいではあるが、まあ試しにてことでね。
エクスポート不可能なnetrpgEBからの移動者は申告による復元も可能だという位置づけ。
今のところ自分にもその申告が嘘偽のものではないという確認することが可能だからね。
同じようにエクスポート不可能な他のEBからの手動復元申請も受け付けてもいいんだけど、そういう申告が本当のデータなのかどうかの確認は困難だから表には出していない。

ゲストキャラ使わなくても、鈴宮EBとは現在では無関係の他のEBになったんだから新EBに同名登録することは問題ないと思うよ。
ただ、そのことを許可しないという判断も各EBの管理者が決めるローカルルールであってmweがどうこう言えることではない、自分たちで鈴宮さんに確認しておいたほうがいいかもしれんな。
ただしデータ移行するのなら両EBに同レベルキャラを持つことは禁止ということは道義上当然のことだと思うから継続ね。

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